The fact that it is without finger groves also hints at the early built of this rifle.
#PATTERN 14 ENFIELD DISC FULL#
This P 14 is in wonderful condition with a “Fatso” stock and period leather marked sling (markings illegible but dated 1916!) Full military stock and handguards with a superb aged patina built up all over – not something that is easily reproduced. The round blued barrel is a nominal 26″ long and the trigger Pull is 13.1/2″ to centre. 303 with a five shot internal magazine and a Mauser type turn-bolt action. I enjoy looking at smle's and playing with them when I get a chance and am prob going to get 1 as a collectors piece just a matter of putting the feelers out and seeing what comes back.Very Fine example of the P 14 “American Enfield” by ERA.Ĭhambered in. Did a bit of research into it and found it's a common issue with milsurp smle's in aus because there was a stage before these things were collectables and some dealers just bolted together anything and sold it without checking even the headspace and that made alot shoot poorly but once fixed they were good to go. The only reason I mentioned the headspace is because a mate who collects smle's was having a real problem with case separation on reloads and after going over the rifles going the headspace was out causing excessive case stretch fixed headspace fixed problem. In the UK there are a LOT of rifles in very poor condition that just do the rounds of the dealers until such time as someone is foolhardy enough to buy them.īut, as many of the posts in this thread show, if you take your time and get a good one, then these old girls are still more than capable of doing the business!īasraBoy, I'm lucky enough over here that a family friend is a dealer and specializes in older firearms circa ww2 so it's lucky for me because when I'm chasing somthing from that era he'll look after me he got my dad an ishapore a few years back and it's a really good rifle pings a 100mm gong at 100m easily with the iron sights generally groups within 50mm. On the Enfields.as with any old/used rifle.you need to take your time and get them checked out thoroughly. They show distributors in Aus and also in Canada.they're actively looking for someone in the US too. I've also started using their 175SMK and 168SMK through my AW and GAP instead of the FGMM - and the results are just as consistent and accurate. My smith checked the headspace on both rifles nad they are both weithin spec. The rounds were just a fraction too long and wouldn't chamber in either my MkIII or the No4. Having said that, whils most of his ammo runs through the No4 just fine, I have had an issue with a very small percentage of the rounds I got from him on OAL. He's done a great job on my Mauser and I have just got a batch of 30-06 run up for my Springfield project. John is great as I can give him the specs of old ammunition (bullet weight, barrel length and MV) and he will work up a load that matches those specs. So I use HPS in the UK as a kind of halfway house. I'm a huge fan of the M91/30 sniper and they can be made to shoot just as well, but results like this, right out of the gate, are hard to ignore:īig Cal - I've always avoided reloading, simply because I don't have the time to get into it properly. I don't have a scope for it, yet (some idiot had sporterized it and I'm in the process of restoring it). This is a 100 yard target with iron sights, mind you. Here's one of the first groups I shot with my Savage built No.4 Mk.I(T), while getting it sighted in and trying some preliminary handloads. However, and especially with the Enfields, obtaining surplus ammo that's in good condition is very difficult to do. I know the purpose of this thread was to focus on "as issued" ammo and I would love to be able to obtain some.
Hand loading and matching bullet diameter to bore diameter can give you great groups. My (T) well shoot 1.5 moa and I have several MkII's with new barrels that shoot 1 moa with the right ammo. The No4(T) had to shoot 3 moa to pass Holland&Holland tests after conversion. Originally Posted By: madcratebuilderOriginally Posted By: 1kHITWhat kind of groups can guns like the Enfield No 4 Mark 1T or the Mosin Nagant 1891/30 with the WWII period scope achieve at 100 yards? Assuming good ammo, and the shooter does his part. Re: I would be Very Interested in the 100 yd group
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